[sv-bc] Minutes: Oct 25 SV-BC CC

Minutes of the October 25, 2004 SV-BC Meeting (Design Modeling
Committee)

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aaaaa Matt Maidment - Intel
aaaaa Brad Pierce - Synopsys
aaa-a Karen Pieper - Synopsys
a-aaa Dan Jacobi - Intel
aaaa- Dave Rich - Synopsys
a-aaa Francoise Martinolle- Cadence
aaaaa Mark Hartoog - Synopsys
-aa-a Rishiyur Nikhil - Bluespec
aaaaa Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design
aaaaa Steven Sharp - Cadence
----- Mike MacNamara - Verisity
a-a-a Stuart Sutherland - Sutherland HDL
a-a-a Don Mills - LCDM Engineering
aaaa- Logie Ramachandran - Synopsys
aaaa- Surrendra Dudani - Synopsys
aa-aa Doug Warmke - Mentor Graphics
aa--- Kathy McKinley - Cadence
-a--- Steve Dovich - Cadence
aa--- Greg Jaxson - Synopsys
a---- Jonathan Bradford - Micronas

Agenda:

+Review IEEE patent policy
  http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

Patent policy was read.

+Review Previous Meeting Minutes

Matt noted one amendment to correct Steve Dovich's last name.

Dave moves to fix Matt's recording of 157 to

"And, elements of a packed structure or array can be assigned with
multiple
continuous assignments, provided that each bit is covered by no more
than a
single continuous assignment."

Brad seconds.
Motion Passed.

AI: Brad will update it as 157 per corrected wording.

Brad moves to accept minutes as amended. Steven seconds.
Motion Passed.

+Update on Net datatype subgroup
Kathy reports that as of the SV-BC meeting, she has received response
from
approximately 1/2 dozen people and that the weekly call is trending to
Thurs 8:30am pacific. Surrendra reported that this time conflicts with
sv-ac
and that he would like to participate. Kathy encouraged Surrendra and
others
to reply to her directoy as soon as possible so a weekly call can be set
up.
Kathy also noted that the sv-bc@eda.org reflector will carry email
exhanges
of the subgroup.
  
  
+Email

Matt will send out a ballot on Monday after the meeting,
covering issues:

    12, 20, 29, 31, 34, 38, 39, 109, 119, 120
    159, 163, 258, 259

Brad asked that 254 be dealt with in the meeting and
not by email.

+Discussion
        
  Possible closure candidates:
   147: This issue is addressed by section 3.10 of the LRM. Brad moves

   the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug).
Surrendra
   seconds. Motion passed.

   148: This issue is addressed in section 3.11 of the LRM. Brad moves
   the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Karen
   seconds. Motion passed.

   149: Date types and struct members can have the same name. Brad
moves
   the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Doug
seconds
   Motion passed.

   150: The default behavior is [0:size-1] as per the LRM. Brad moves
   the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Danny
seconds.
   Motion passed.

   232: Const variables are different than constant_primary. Francoise
moves
   the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Brad
seconds.
   Motion passed.

  Other:
   254: Lots of discussion about implicit versus explicit aggegrate
   constructors. Stu & Steven advocate the use of '{ to unambiguously
   indicate a struct constructor and packed'{ to unambiguously indicate
a
   concatentation. Dave later pointed out that the bit-stream operator
   will serve this purpose. Straw poll agreed that addition of '{ to
   unambiguously indicate a struct expression is a good thing. Brad
will
   incorporate this into his proposal.

  Group did not get to:

   19: Brad Proposal uploaded, ready for vote?
   27: Dave Rich Proposal uploaded, ready for vote?
   32: Brad vote in meeting or defer to email?
   37: Brad Informal proposal in issue.
  218: Brad Proposal uploaded.
  220: Steven Proposal uploaded.
  223: Brad Proposal uploaded.
  226: Brad Proposal uploaded, needs more discussion?

  Immediate Priority Issues
  -------------------------
   21 Mark Hartoog
   23 Nikhil (10/29)
   24 Mark Hartoog
   26 Cliff Cummings
   32 Brad Pierce (9/27)
   36 Matt Maidment (11/8)
   51 Francoise Martinolle
   74 Nikhil (10/29)
** 94 Brad Pierce (close pending 254)
  101 Francoise Martinolle
 *102 Brad Pierce (9/27) move to close
  103 Mark Hartoog
  110 Cliff Cummings / Don Mills
**112 Brad Pierce (close pending 254)
  120 Mark Hartoog (10/15)
  145 Matt Maidment (11/8)
**146 Brad Pierce (close pending 254)
 *148 Brad Pierce (9/27) move to close
  170 Dave Rich
  214 Needs more discussion
  216 Steven Sharp
  217 Steven Sharp
  218 Brad Pierce (10/3)
  220 Steven Sharp (9/29)
  226 Brad Pierce (9/2)
  254 Brad Pierce (10/14)

Action Items
Completed

Pending
09/27/04 Steven Review 221 for possible inclusion in immediate priority
issues
to be resolved.
10/11/04 Karen File erratum to update SV LRM refs from 1364-2001 to
1364-2005
10/11/04 Dave 76: Fix typo
10/11/04 Dave Related to 157, File new errata for continuous driver
(assign)
10/11/04 Brad 39: change wording to non-negative to rows 3 & 4 / 5 & 6
10/11/04 Brad 43: Keep second sentence change for 10.4. strike first
change.

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Matt Maidment
mmaidmen@ichips.intel.com