[sv-bc] Minutes: April 1 SV-BC Ballot Resolution Committee Meeting

From: Maidment, Matthew R <matthew.r.maidment_at_.....>
Date: Sun Apr 03 2005 - 23:06:23 PDT
Minutes of the April 01, 2005 SV-BC Ballot Resolution Committee

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a Matt Maidment       - Intel               
a Brad Pierce         - Synopsys 
a Karen Pieper        - Synopsys           
a Dan Jacobi          - Intel              
a Dave Rich           - Mentor Graphics     
a Rishiyur Nikhil     - Bluespec
a Cliff Cummings      - Sunburst Design 
a Steven Sharp        - Cadence                   
a Don Mills           - LCDM Engineering 
a Logie Ramachandran  - Synopsys                      
a Gord Vreugdenhil    - Mentor Graphics
- Francoise Martinolle- Cadence              
- Kathy McKinley      - Cadence            
- Doug Warmke         - Mentor Graphics 
- Tom Fitzpatrick     - Mentor Graphics
- Mark Hartoog        - Synopsys  
- Surrendra Dudani    - Synopsys 
- Greg Jaxon          - Synopsys              
- Jonathan Bradford   - Micronas              
- Stuart Sutherland   - Sutherland HDL 

Agenda:

+Review IEEE patent policy
  http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 

Reviewed.

+Issue Resolution Process
Karen provided the details of the process to resolve ballot issues:

Schedule is very important.  Absolute deadline to resolve issues is 
April 19th.  Champions meet April 11th, this is the effective date when 
issues should be resolved . 

All issues are to be entered into the svdb.  Committees to mark issues 
as resolved when appropriate.  Resolved issues go to the champions as
well as Stu for editing.  They are then sent back to the committees
for review and closure.

Johny recommends the following order for resolving issues
 Small amount of time on low-hanging fruit
 Negative-high
 Positive-high
 Negative-medium
 Positive-medium
 etc.

Committee must address all negative ballot comments.

Committee decided only LRM changes go to svdb.  All issues are to be
tracked in spreadsheet.

The disposition column is free form text explaining direction taken.
Karen did not know the purpose of the WG Resolution field.  She
took the AI to check with Johny.

The concept of decreasing consensus was explained as the outcome of
the committee making a change that could cause more negative votes in
the re-ballot.  Committee agreed it is important to make changes that
don't threaten consensus.

[Post Meeting Note from Karen:

"I have just traded mail with Johny asking about voting rights for the 
current ballot resolution process in the committees.  Johny has
determined 
that we are now acting as a Ballot Resolution Committee, and not as the 
technical committees.  As a result, all of the voting priviledges need
to 
be reset.  I.e.  anyone who shows up for the first 3 meetings can vote.

After than, one needs to attend 2 consecutive meetings to gain voting
rights, 
and 2 of the preceding 3 to retain them."]

+Future Meeting Schedule
Tentative: By Phone, Wednesday April 6th, 8am-10am

April 4th Meeting: high priority issues first
Easy issues need to get knocked down immediately as well

+ Issue Resolution

For issues 205 & 207

Karen propsed that these issues be resolved with the response:

"The committe read and considered this feedback.  While it
has merit, the committee believes it is not feasible to 
implement at this time."

Cliff Seconds.
No opposed.
No abstain.
Motion passes.

AI: Cliff to review Item 266 and report status at April 4th meeting.

AI: Steven & Brad will review and propose solution for issue 1 at
the April 4th meeting.

AI: Steven will review and propose solution for issue 6 at the 
April 4th meeting.

AI: Gord to propose solution to issue 29
AI: Karen to provide Gord with SVDB account
AI: Brad to assign issue 29 to Gord
  
AI: Steven to propose solution to issue 35 at the April 4th meeting
AI: Brad to propose solution to issue 91 at the April 4th meeting
AI: Dave to propose solution to issue 216 at the April 4th meeting

Issue 223 

Brad moves to accept proposal as amended below:


Change Section 22.2:
local_parameter_declaration ::=
localparam data_type_or_implicit list_of_param_assignments
| localparam type list_of_type_assignments ;
// from A.2.1.1 


A.2.1.1 Module parameter declarations
local_parameter_declaration ::=
localparam data_type_or_implicit list_of_param_assignments 
| localparam type list_of_type_assignments;

Cliff seconds.
No opposed.
No  abstain.
Motion passes.

AI: Matt enter issue 223 into SVDB

Issue 256

Brad moves that

"Proposed change rejected due to other ballot issue (223) that
has resolved this issue."

Danny seconds.
No opposed.
No abstain.
Motion passes.

Issue 269
Brad moves to accept proposal.
Cliff seconds.
No opposed.
Abstain:  Steven (did not have a chance to fully review)
Motion passes.  
AI: Brad enter issue 269 into SVDB

Issue 273(304)

AI: Matt bring up Issue 273 for re-vote Monday.

Issue 274
Brad moves to accept proposal.
Karen seconds.
No opposed.
Abstain:  Steven (did not have a chance to fully review)
Motion passes.

275/226: 

Issue 278
AI: Matt add issue 278 to April 4th agenda

Issue 280
Steven moves to resolve as:

"This is rejected as it will conflict with backward compatibility with
1364 
which is a requirement of SV."

Cliff seconds.
No opposed.
No abstain.
Motion passes.

Issue 285
AI: Karen to get more information for issue 285

Issue 234
AI: Matt add issue 234 to April 4th agenda

Issue 243
AI: Gord bring new wording and clarification of issue 243 to April 4th
meeting
AI: Matt add issue 243 to April 4th agenda

Issue 244
AI: Matt add issue 244 to April 4th agenda
Problematic case occurs when highconn of interface port is a
hierarchical
reference to interface or to a modport of a hierarchical reference to an

interface.

Issue 245
Cliff moves to accept modified wording:

Any instantiation whose port actuals refer to an arrayed interface 
shall itself be treated as an arrayed instantiation when considering
the elaboration flow.

Steven seconds
No opposed.
No abstain.
Motion passes.

AI: Matt Add Issue 245 to SVDB

Issue 246 
Discuss on April 4
AI: Matt add issue 246 to April 4 agenda
AI: Gord to provide example for issue 246

Issue 247 
AI: Matt add issue 247 to April 4 agenda

Issue 248
AI: Matt add issue 248 to April 4 agenda

Issue 227
It is equivalent to SVDB item 324 
AI: Matt add issue 227 to April 4 agenda

Issue 264
Pending Issue 265
AI: Cliff to make proposals for issues 264 & 265

Issue 231
Dave moves to accept proposal.
Brad seconds.
No Opposed.
No Abstain.
Motion passes.

Issue 242
Dave moves

Packages must not contain any processes, therefore wire declarations
with implicit 
continuous assignments are not allowed.

Cliff seconds.
No opposed.
No abstain.
Motion passes.

Issue 249
Dave moves to remove task keyword.
Brad seconds.
No oppposed.
No Abstain.
Motion passes.
AI: Dave add issue 249 to SVDB.

Issue 224
Issue 277 is duplicate.  Issue 277 is in masterdata worksheet and
includes
a full proposal.
AI: Matt add issue 224/277 to April 4 agenda

Next Meeting: Monday, April 4
9:30am-5:00pm Pacific

Action Items

Pending
04/01/05 Karen Ask Johny for the purpose of the 'WG Resolution' column
04/01/05 Cliff to review Item 266 and report status at April 4 meeting.
04/01/05 Steven & Brad will review and propose solution for issue 1 at
         the April 4 meeting.
04/01/05 Steven will review and propose solution for issue 6 at the
         April 4 meeting.
04/01/05 Gord to propose solution to issue 29
04/01/05 Karen to provide Gord with SVDB account
04/01/05 Brad to assign issue 29 to Gord
04/01/05 Steven to propose solution to issue 35 at the April 4th meeting
04/01/05 Brad to propose solution to issue 91 at the April 4th meeting
04/01/05 Dave to propose solution to issue 216 at the April 4th meeting
04/01/05 Matt enter issue 223 into SVDB
04/01/05 Brad enter issue 269 into SVDB
04/01/05 Matt bring up Issue 273 for re-vote Monday.
04/01/05 Matt add issue 278 to April 4th agenda
04/01/05 Karen to get more information for issue 285
04/01/05 Matt add issue 234 to April 4th agenda
04/01/05 Gord bring new wording and clarification of issue 243 to 
         April 4th meeting
04/01/05 Matt add issue 243 to April 4th agenda
04/01/05 Matt add issue 244 to April 4th agenda
04/01/05 Matt Add Issue 245 to SVDB
04/01/05 Matt add issue 246 to April 4 agenda
04/01/05 Gord to provide example for issue 246
04/01/05 Matt add issue 247 to April 4 agenda
04/01/05 Matt add issue 248 to April 4 agenda
04/01/05 Matt add issue 227 to April 4 agenda
04/01/05 Dave add issue 249 to SVDB.
04/01/05 Matt add issue 224/277 to April 4 agenda
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