[sv-bc] RE: [sv-ac] RE: 1995 (concurrent assertions in loops) ready for vote?

From: Bresticker, Shalom <shalom.bresticker_at_.....>
Date: Sun Oct 28 2007 - 00:35:31 PDT
Erik,

Sorry to do this, but some comments:
 
> I have posted an updated version of this proposal (also 
> attached here), which incorporates the feedback received so far.  
> 
> John-- unless anyone has major last-minute comments, I 
> believe this should now be ready for a vote.

1. "The loop may not contain an early exit using break or similar
constructs." 
Is "similar constructs" well-defined? Where?


2. "The body of the loop must consist of a labeled begin-end block."
We discussed this topic recently in SV-BC in Mantis 1348. I am cc'ing
SV-BC on this to make sure I get this right. The bottom line is
something like this:

a. A Verilog-type for-loop, where the iterator is declared outside the
for-loop, does not create a new hierarchical scope. In that case,
enclosing the loop body in a named begin-end block creates a new
hierarchical scope around the loop body, which is what you want, I
think. (Would a fork-join block be as good as a begin-end block?)
(Language quibble: begin-end blocks are 'named' when the name appears
after the 'begin' keyword followed by a colon. A 'label' is when the
name appears before the 'begin' keyword, followed by a colon. They have
the same effect.) This is similar to generates.

b. An SV-type for-loop, where the iterator(s) is declared within the
for-statement does create a new hierarchical scope. The LRM says in
12.7, "The local variable declared within a for loop is equivalent to
declaring an automatic variable in an unnamed block." That statement
means that an implicit begin-end block is created around the for-loop,
as though "for (int ii=0; ...)" was really

begin
  int ii;
  for (ii=0; ...)
  ...
end

By default, that begin-end block is unnamed. 1348 intends to modify that
statement to say that a statement label on the for-loop is equivalent to
naming the implicit begin-end block around it, so that

label: for (int ii=0; ...) ...

would be equivalent to 

begin : label
  int ii;
  for (ii=0; ...)
  ...
end

I have an action item to clarify 12.7.

So if you add a labeled begin-end block around the loop body, you get
the following:

label1: for (int ii=0; ...)
          label2: begin
            ...
          end

and then the statements within the loop body are within the scope
label1.label2.

On the other hand, if you do not label such a for-statement, like this:

for (int ii=0; ...)
  label2: begin
    ...
  end

then you have a labelled begin-end block inside an unnamed block, and
you don't have a legal hierarchical name to the label2 scope, because it
is inside an unnamed block.

foreach loops work similarly.

generate for-loops work differently, though. See Mantis 898.


3. The back-tic in 

integer my_ints[2] = '{123, 456};

should be an apostrophe.


4. Finally, regarding the assertion scope labelling. I'm going to ignore
for now the problem of the implicit scope around the for/foreach. Let's
take the first example. You have a foreach loop with a begin-end body
labelled b1 containing an assertion labelled a1. 

You create a generate loop named b1 with the body containing the
assertion labelled a1, giving you scopes b1[0], b1[1], ...

However the scope named b1 in the foreach loop does not disappear. This
is giving you two scopes named b1, the first being a regular scope, and
the second is a scope array created by the generate. I don't think you
can do that in normal code.

Sorry to make life complicated.

Regards,
Shalom
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