Greg, I wish we didn't have all these implicit defaults, but we've got them and the rules are straightforward. For subsequent ports in the port list: - If the direction, port kind and data type are all omitted, then they shall be inherited from the previous port.. Otherwise - If the direction is omitted, it shall be inherited from the previous port. - If the port kind is omitted, it shall be determined as specified above. - If the data type is omitted, it shall default to logic. Therefore P! is an output because its direction was omitted, and its type/kind are taken from r. Since q's direction, port kind and data type are all omitted, then they are all inherited P1. I agree that's probably not the user's intent, but that's what they get for being LAZY. Dave ________________________________ From: owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Greg Jaxon Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:18 PM To: Bresticker, Shalom Cc: Dhiraj Kumar Prasad; sv-bc@server.eda.org; Surya Pratik Saha Subject: Re: [sv-bc] Query related with explicit name port declaration. Shalom, Dhiraj, Shalom is right about this syntax being illegal, but he's ducking the real question about how named ports interact with ansi_port_declaration carryforward of port_direction and net/variable/interface_port_header specifications. module mod(output byte character, .P1(r), q); int r; endmodule Do we need to specify direction for r? Is specifying "int" type for r consistent with the "byte" type which seems to reach it? What is the type of q? byte, or logic? Surely not int! While implementing here recently I came to the opinion that the BNF is suggesting that type info is lost, but that direction info can be carried through. That gives the answers 1) NO, 2) YES, 3) output logic to my three questions. Bresticker, Shalom wrote: I think this is not legal syntax, to specify a data type with an explicit port declaration: ansi_port_declaration ::= [ net_port_header | interface_port_header ] port_identifier { unpacked_dimension }[ = constant_expression ] | [ variable_port_header ] port_identifier { variable_dimension } [ = constant_expression ] | [ port_direction ] . port_identifier ( [ expression ] ) The BNF seems to allow only the port direction. Shalom -----Original Message----- From: owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Dhiraj Kumar Prasad Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:35 AM To: sv-bc@server.eda.org Cc: Surya Pratik Saha Subject: [sv-bc] Query related with explicit name port declaration. Hello, I have a query related with explicit name port declaration. For example module mod(output logic .P1(r)); int r; endmodule In above testcases once a type is specified with port then is this(logic here) will be regarded as type of "r" ?? If yes then does the redefinition of variable "r" should be treated as illegal as the name is previously declared. If not then what is the significance of specifying explicit data type(logic here) with port . Different standard tools are behaving in different way. Regards, dhiRAj --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Israel (74) Limited This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner <http://www.mailscanner.info/> , and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Fri Nov 13 13:27:02 2009
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