Subject: RE: [sv-ec] CH-34
From: Neil Korpusik (Neil.Korpusik@eng.sun.com)
Date: Tue Jan 28 2003 - 18:43:30 PST
The word "non-composite" might be a better choice than "singular".
After taking another look at the 3.14 write-up for $cast() it appears that
there are several other data types that should be considered for inclusion
into the set of "singulars".
Some data types that come to mind are: char, shortint, int, longint, byte,
logic and reg. There may be others as well. The reason for this oversight is
most likely due to the fact that Vera doesn't have as rich a set of data types
as System Verilog.
Neil
> From: "David W. Smith" <david.smith@synopsys.com>
> To: "'Kevin Cameron x3251'" <Kevin.Cameron@nsc.com>,
<Arturo.Salz@synopsys.com>
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> Subject: RE: [sv-ec] CH-34
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> We spent at least two meetings where this topic was discussed. At the Jan
> 13th meeting the use of the term "singular" was proposed. Kevin raised the
> issue that it was used in Verilog-AMS. The question was asked if there were
> any other suggestions for terms. None were forthcoming.
>
> At the next meeting (Monday) we will vote on this at the meeting. If anyone
> wants to suggest another word they need to do it before Monday.
>
> Regards
> David
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sv-ec@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@eda.org] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Cameron x3251
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: Arturo.Salz@Synopsys.COM
> Cc: sv-ec@eda.org
> Subject: Re: [sv-ec] CH-34
>
>
> > From Arturo.Salz@synopsys.com Tue Jan 28 14:48:17 2003
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > This is from Webster's:
> > Singular - of or relating to a single instance or to something
> > considered by itself
> >
> > Clearly the intent here is as a single item, a scalar, but that term
> > is already being used to mean one bit.
> >
> > Arturo
>
> I might use "singular" to describe an event since you can't slice & dice
> those, but I don't think there's much else I'd want to apply it to.
>
> Scalar has the definition "a number possessing only sign and magnitude",
> since simulation types also have strength and certainty neither word seems
> really appropriate to me.
>
> Maybe we could make up a new word e.g.: "homogen" (from homogeneous) ?
>
> Kev.
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Cameron x3251" <Kevin.Cameron@nsc.com>
> > To: <Kevin.Cameron@nsc.com>; <david.smith@synopsys.COM>
> > Cc: <sv-ec@eda.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sv-ec] EMAIL Vote
> >
> >
> > > From david.smith@synopsys.com Tue Jan 28 14:16:56 2003
> > >
> > > What Action Item or Change Item number is it. I remember the
> > > discussion but do not remember an action. Can you point it out in
> > > the minutes what the decision was?
> >
> > If you mean swapping [] and [*], we discussed it a few meetings ago
> > and decided to vote on it at the next voting meeting - I don't think
> > it got as far as getting a number. (email #471 Jan 13th)
> >
> > > Any particular reason to vote no on CH-34? This has been available
> > > for awhile with no comments.
> >
> > I don't like "singular", it doesn't convey any useful meaning for me
> > used in this context.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kev.
> >
> > > David W. Smith
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Cameron [mailto:Kevin.Cameron@nsc.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:16 PM
> > > To: David W. Smith
> > > Cc: sv-ec@eda.org
> > > Subject: Re: [sv-ec] EMAIL Vote
> > >
> > >
> > > _X_yes ___no 1. Acceptance of the above.
> > > _X_yes ___no 2. Approve minutes from 6 January 2003
> > > _X_yes ___no 3. Approve minutes from 13 January 2003
> > > _X_yes ___no 4. Approve minutes from 21 January 2003
> > > _X_yes ___no 5. Approve CH-32
> > > ___yes _X_no 6. Approve CH-34
> > > _X_yes ___no 7. Approve CH-35
> > > _X_yes ___no 8. Approve CH-36
> > > _X_yes ___no 9. Approve CH-37
> > > _X_yes ___no 10. Approve CH-38
> > > _X_yes ___no 11. Approve CH-39
> > > _X_yes ___no 12. Approve CH-40
> > > _X_yes ___no 13. Approve CH-41
> > > _X_yes ___no 14. Approve CH-42
> > >
> > > Can we do swapping [] and [*] for array and associative array
> > > declarations by e-mail too?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kev.
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