Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
From: David W. Smith (david.smith@synopsys.com)
Date: Wed Feb 12 2003 - 17:44:36 PST
Hi Neil,
A comment on your response to CH-18. This was done to the Draft 1 LRM. There
is a change (CH-52) that makes the correction that you point out to the
Draft 2 LRM (which includes CH-18 already). What I was asking for approval
on is that the change referred to in CH-18 is ok. To be completely correct
the changes that are also defined for CH-50, 51, and 52 also must be taken
into account (54 and 55 refer to Section 13.11). In some sense I am looking
for concurrence on the change that was made. If you see other errors not
covered in any of the existing changes then I will have to create a new
change for this.
With respect to CH-85, you are correct that inout needs to be added to the
list. I will make that change. If this changes anyones vote they are free to
do so :).
With respect to CH-99, I have added inout.
If this answers your issues on CH-18 or CH_85 then feel free to change your
vote (since voting has been extended until Friday).
David
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From: Neil Korpusik [mailto:Neil.Korpusik@eng.sun.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:50 PM
To: sv-ec@eda.org; david.smith@Synopsys.COM
Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
Hi David,
It is taking some time to go through all of these changes in
detail. I have reviewed most of them but am running out of time (I thought
you would be closing the voting by 5pm today). I
will look over 100 and 101 and send out another email later today.
The following are the list of changes that need approval. Please consider
each and vote on them.
__yes X_no 1. Approve CH-17
Flagged issues in this section for 2/10/03 meeting.
__yes X_no 2. Approve CH-18
a. reference to 12.9.1 should be 13.11? (page 107)
b. We also have CH-53, CH-54, CH-55,
I wasn't sure what we are actually voting on here...
X_yes __no 3. Approve CH-20
__yes X_no 4. Approve CH-47
a. Suggest the following re-wording of the first change.
A skew is a constant expression that is optionally followed by a time
unit. If a time unit isn't specified, the current time unit is used.
A skew can be specfied as a parameter.
b. Second change (paragraph removal) - agree
X_yes __no 5. Approve CH-53
__yes X_no 6. Approve CH-60
What happens when we sample a signal within an expression? Do we
wait for the clocking event? What if there are signals from different
clockings in the same expression where each signal uses a different
clocking event? I assume that the samples in these situations take
place immediately without waiting for the clocking event.
These situations need to be explained.
X_yes __no 7. Approve CH-83
X_yes __no 8. Approve CH-84
__yes X_no 9. Approve CH-85
'inout' needs to be added to the list.
X_yes __no 10. Approve CH-86
X_yes __no 11. Approve CH-93
__yes X_no 12. Approve CH-94
a. According to CH-93 this should now be called "the event control
operator".
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
b. Clocking-domain 'inout' also allowed? (only input mentioned)
c. I would like to get some clarification on this change. Are we now
saying that section 8.9 is being enhanced to allow signals contained in
clocking-domains to be specified? If so, why don't we just say that?
X_yes __no 13. Approve CH-95
__yes X_no 14. Approve CH-96
a. I really don't like the use of [] on the '## [5]' type of controls,
but if we are going to require it in some places it should be required
everywhere for consistency. That means we need to add it in here.
b. For the intra-assignment variation, we must define the specific
behavior when a ## 0 is specified.
c. How do we allow for driving values onto a clocking signal on both edges
of a clock? I would like to see an example along with an explanation.
(It looks like this is covered in CH-97).
d. Are both forms blocking?
X_yes __no 15. Approve CH_97
__yes X_no 16. Approve CH-98
It looks like I am now confused. Didn't CH-96 do away with the
non-blocking drive?
__yes X_no 17. Approve CH-99
Need to add 'inout'
__yes __no 18. Approve CH-100
__yes __no 19. Approve CH_101
Neil
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Greetings,
As of today I only have votes from Jay, Francoise, and Stefen for this. If
you could please take a moment and submit your votes today it would help to
close some of the changes and get all of the issues out in the open on the
rest.
I have included a PDF if the spread sheet of the current vote (and elligible
voting members - per the latest count - as corrected).
Regards
David
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From: owner-sv-ec@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@eda.org] On Behalf Of David W.
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:21 AM
To: sv-ec@eda.org
Subject: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
The following are the list of changes that need approval. Please consider
each and vote on them.
__yes __no 1. Approve CH-17
__yes __no 2. Approve CH-18
__yes __no 3. Approve CH-20
__yes __no 4. Approve CH-47
__yes __no 5. Approve CH-53
__yes __no 6. Approve CH-60
__yes __no 7. Approve CH-83
__yes __no 8. Approve CH-84
__yes __no 9. Approve CH-85
__yes __no 10. Approve CH-86
__yes __no 11. Approve CH-93
__yes __no 12. Approve CH-94
__yes __no 13. Approve CH-95
__yes __no 14. Approve CH-96
__yes __no 15. Approve CH_97
__yes __no 16. Approve CH-98
__yes __no 17. Approve CH-99
__yes __no 18. Approve CH-100
__yes __no 19. Approve CH_101
Voting on these items will close on Wednesday 12 February 2003. Same voting
rules as last time.
I expect that some of these will not pass since there are some significant
changes in response to the action items. I am doing this to prune done the
list of items to the ones that we need to discuss to help focus our time in
meetings.
Regards
David
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