Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
From: Neil Korpusik (Neil.Korpusik@eng.sun.com)
Date: Wed Feb 12 2003 - 18:03:34 PST
I now approve CH-85 and CH-99.
X_yes __no 9. Approve CH-85
X_yes __no 17. Approve CH-99
Neil
> From: "David W. Smith" <david.smith@Synopsys.COM>
> To: "'Neil Korpusik'" <Neil.Korpusik@eng.sun.com>, <sv-ec@eda.org>
> Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
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> Hi Neil,
> A comment on your response to CH-18. This was done to the Draft 1 LRM. There
> is a change (CH-52) that makes the correction that you point out to the
> Draft 2 LRM (which includes CH-18 already). What I was asking for approval
> on is that the change referred to in CH-18 is ok. To be completely correct
> the changes that are also defined for CH-50, 51, and 52 also must be taken
> into account (54 and 55 refer to Section 13.11). In some sense I am looking
> for concurrence on the change that was made. If you see other errors not
> covered in any of the existing changes then I will have to create a new
> change for this.
>
> With respect to CH-85, you are correct that inout needs to be added to the
> list. I will make that change. If this changes anyones vote they are free to
> do so :).
>
> With respect to CH-99, I have added inout.
>
> If this answers your issues on CH-18 or CH_85 then feel free to change your
> vote (since voting has been extended until Friday).
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Korpusik [mailto:Neil.Korpusik@eng.sun.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:50 PM
> To: sv-ec@eda.org; david.smith@Synopsys.COM
> Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> It is taking some time to go through all of these changes in
> detail. I have reviewed most of them but am running out of time (I thought
> you would be closing the voting by 5pm today). I
> will look over 100 and 101 and send out another email later today.
>
>
> The following are the list of changes that need approval. Please consider
> each and vote on them.
>
> __yes X_no 1. Approve CH-17
> Flagged issues in this section for 2/10/03 meeting.
> __yes X_no 2. Approve CH-18
>
> a. reference to 12.9.1 should be 13.11? (page 107)
> b. We also have CH-53, CH-54, CH-55,
> I wasn't sure what we are actually voting on here...
>
> X_yes __no 3. Approve CH-20
> __yes X_no 4. Approve CH-47
>
> a. Suggest the following re-wording of the first change.
>
> A skew is a constant expression that is optionally followed by a time
> unit. If a time unit isn't specified, the current time unit is used.
> A skew can be specfied as a parameter.
>
> b. Second change (paragraph removal) - agree
>
> X_yes __no 5. Approve CH-53
> __yes X_no 6. Approve CH-60
>
> What happens when we sample a signal within an expression? Do we
> wait for the clocking event? What if there are signals from different
> clockings in the same expression where each signal uses a different
> clocking event? I assume that the samples in these situations take
> place immediately without waiting for the clocking event.
>
> These situations need to be explained.
>
> X_yes __no 7. Approve CH-83
> X_yes __no 8. Approve CH-84
> __yes X_no 9. Approve CH-85
>
> 'inout' needs to be added to the list.
>
> X_yes __no 10. Approve CH-86
> X_yes __no 11. Approve CH-93
> __yes X_no 12. Approve CH-94
>
> a. According to CH-93 this should now be called "the event control
> operator".
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> b. Clocking-domain 'inout' also allowed? (only input mentioned)
> c. I would like to get some clarification on this change. Are we now
> saying that section 8.9 is being enhanced to allow signals contained in
>
> clocking-domains to be specified? If so, why don't we just say that?
>
> X_yes __no 13. Approve CH-95
> __yes X_no 14. Approve CH-96
> a. I really don't like the use of [] on the '## [5]' type of controls,
> but if we are going to require it in some places it should be required
> everywhere for consistency. That means we need to add it in here.
> b. For the intra-assignment variation, we must define the specific
> behavior when a ## 0 is specified.
> c. How do we allow for driving values onto a clocking signal on both edges
> of a clock? I would like to see an example along with an explanation.
> (It looks like this is covered in CH-97).
> d. Are both forms blocking?
> X_yes __no 15. Approve CH_97
> __yes X_no 16. Approve CH-98
>
> It looks like I am now confused. Didn't CH-96 do away with the
> non-blocking drive?
>
> __yes X_no 17. Approve CH-99
>
> Need to add 'inout'
>
> __yes __no 18. Approve CH-100
> __yes __no 19. Approve CH_101
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
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>
> Greetings,
> As of today I only have votes from Jay, Francoise, and Stefen for this. If
> you could please take a moment and submit your votes today it would help to
> close some of the changes and get all of the issues out in the open on the
> rest.
>
> I have included a PDF if the spread sheet of the current vote (and elligible
> voting members - per the latest count - as corrected).
>
> Regards
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sv-ec@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@eda.org] On Behalf Of David W.
> Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: sv-ec@eda.org
> Subject: [sv-ec] Email Vote 3 on proposed changes
>
>
> The following are the list of changes that need approval. Please consider
> each and vote on them.
>
> __yes __no 1. Approve CH-17
> __yes __no 2. Approve CH-18
> __yes __no 3. Approve CH-20
> __yes __no 4. Approve CH-47
> __yes __no 5. Approve CH-53
> __yes __no 6. Approve CH-60
> __yes __no 7. Approve CH-83
> __yes __no 8. Approve CH-84
> __yes __no 9. Approve CH-85
> __yes __no 10. Approve CH-86
> __yes __no 11. Approve CH-93
> __yes __no 12. Approve CH-94
> __yes __no 13. Approve CH-95
> __yes __no 14. Approve CH-96
> __yes __no 15. Approve CH_97
>
> __yes __no 16. Approve CH-98
> __yes __no 17. Approve CH-99
> __yes __no 18. Approve CH-100
> __yes __no 19. Approve CH_101
>
> Voting on these items will close on Wednesday 12 February 2003. Same voting
> rules as last time.
>
> I expect that some of these will not pass since there are some significant
> changes in response to the action items. I am doing this to prune done the
> list of items to the ones that we need to discuss to help focus our time in
> meetings.
>
> Regards
> David
>
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