Subject: 27th Verilog++ Committee Meeting Minutes 5/20/02
From: Dave Kelf (davek@co-design.com)
Date: Thu May 23 2002 - 07:38:08 PDT
Sorry this is so late every - email troubles
> >
> >27th Verilog++ Committee Meeting Minutes
> >May 20th, 2002
> >Vassilios leading, Davek taking minutes
> >
> >ATTENDANCE
> >(aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaa) Vassilios Gerousis *
> >(aaaaaaa-aaaraaa-aaarar-aaaa) Dave Kelf *
> >(-----------------aaa--aaaa=) John Sanguinetti
> >(aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa--a-aa---) Dennis Brophy *
> >(aaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa) Stu Sutherland *
> >(--a---------a--------aaaaa=) David Knapp
> >(a-aaaaaaaaa--aaaaaraaar-aaa) Tom Fitzpatrick *
> >(--aaaaaaa-aaa-aaaa-aaaaaaaa) Anders Nordstrom
> >(aaaaaaaa--aaaaaa--a-aaaaaaa) Cliff Cummings *
> >(aaaaaa--aaaaaaaaraaa-aaaaaa) Simon Davidmann * (represented by Phil Moorby)
> >(aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa====) Peter Flake *
> >(a-aaaaaa-a--aaaa-aaaaa-aaaa) Stefen Boyd *
> >(a-aaaaa---aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa) David Smith *
> >(aaaaaa-aa-aaa-aaa--a-a--aa=) Mike McNamara *
> >(aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa=======) Kevin Cameron *
> >(a-aaaaa-aaaaa-a-aa-a=======) Andy Tsay *
> >(-aa-aaaaaaaa-aa============) Alec Stanculescu
> >(--a-aa-aa----a=============) Adam Krolnik
> >(aaaa-aaaa-aaa==============) Paul Graham *
> >(------------a==============) David Seifert
> >(--------a==================) Alex Zamfirescu
> >(-aa========================) Jayant Nagda
> >(---========================) Karen Pieper
> >(a-a========================) Erich Marschner *
> >(--a========================) Prakash Narian
> >(a==========================) Heath Chambers *
> >
> >AGENDA
> >Intro to Heath
> >SystemVerilog 30 clean up
> >Clarification of Cadence issues
> >
> >MINUTES
> >Introduction to new member: Heath Chambers - ex HP worked on firmware
> >development, ASIC verification last 3/4 years. Became independent - now
> >training with Cliff Cummings, and nominated by him.
> >ACTION: Vassilios to put Heath onto email reflector
> >
> >SystemVerilog 3.0 Comments
> >Input to Stu - very little - some from Cliff, Peter.
> >Heath: Section 3.6 & Annex A.2.1 - BNF to enum text slight inconsistency
> >missing datatype
> >Erich: Time literals need some clarification - mention range 0-9
> >Tom: Section 8.2 - "string" used in example - should be removed and
> >replaced with another type
> >Heath: Section 8.9 - change enable = 0
> >ACTION Stu: to modify with Peter's help
> >
> >Clarification of Cadence Issues
> >Vassilios asked Cadence representatives to clarify objections made by Grant
> >Martin to board level
> >Erich: Mentioned Cadence's comment to the board directed at them, not at
> >committee.
> >Vassilios stated that he specifically wanted to understand Cadence
> >technical objections
> >Paul: Incomplete type declarations - difficult to implement.
> >Peter: Mentioned they could be implemented
> >Dave: Mentioned implemented for a while, in use at customers
> >Mac: Needs to be implemented by others to flush out further
> >Others: Things can be changed once they are implemented
> >Erich: If things can be changed then Cadence will find standard more
> >acceptable
> >Mac: Deadlines important
> >Issues list needs to be kept for 3.1 - separate to LRM
> >ACTION: Erich to send issue information to DaveK to be retained for
> discussion
> >
> >Issues from Paul:
> >Section 3.6 An enumerated type has one of a set of named values - change
> >Section 3.7 Structures and Unions: Named structure types must always use a
> >typedef - delete sentence
> >Section 3.8 "Casting" sentence change. Change example at end of section 3.8
> >Section 4.2 Sentence on part select of an array is unsigned - unnecessary
> > Bring up as an issue for 3.1. Add to Erich's list
> > Replace sentence with a "packed array is unsigned" sentence
> >Section 5.1 Remove word macro
> >Section 5.3 Constant expression shall contain word constant. No change,
> >add on the issues list
> >Section 6.2 Missing new line
> >Section 7.8 Table 7.2 Remove parentheses operator
> >
> >NEXT MEETING
> >Next meeting face to face June 5th
> >
> >May 29th final day for feedback on LRM to Stu
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