[sv-bc] RE: [sv-ac] Re: [sv-cc] Technical Committees Operating Guidelines - as a Working Group

Hi Cliff,

There could be the following problem with this suggestion. As far as I remember only four members of the same company can vote simultaneously in a committee. If consultants are associated with a company, the number of the company members may exceed four.

Thanks,
Dmitry

From: owner-sv-ac@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ac@eda.org] On Behalf Of Clifford E. Cummings
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Cc: Karen.Bartleson@synopsys.com
Subject: [sv-ac] Re: [sv-cc] Technical Committees Operating Guidelines - as a Working Group

At 06:17 PM 6/30/2010, Neil Korpusik wrote:

To all P1800 Technical Committees,

...

- New IEEE participation rules

  There are some new rules that have been put in place by the IEEE with
  regards to participation rights. These new rules are being clarified.
  There will be a FAQ forthcoming which will help clarify these new rules.
  The Working Group will review the FAQ and determine what impact it will
  have on the Technical Committees. Until that occurs, we are continuing to
  allow everyone to participate, as we did while we were still a Study Group.

Hi, All -

I talked to Karen Bartelson at DAC about the new IEEE participation rules (Karen is copied to this email message).

For a comparison of SA memberships:
http://standards.ieee.org/sa-mem/compare.html

My understanding - Individual membership cannot participate on an entity standard like P1800

Basic Corporate Membership for consultants would be $1,250 per year.
Unlimited corporate working group attendance as observer only
http://standards.ieee.org/sa-mem/corp_overview.html

The $1,250 rate probably will knock out the consultants that participate on the P1800. Even at this rate, consultants would only have observer status at meetings.

ALTERNATE OPTION -
I asked Karen if consultants that were contractors to Advanced Corporate Members could participate on the P1800 subcommittees?

Scenario:
A few consultants like myself, Heath Chambers and Stu Sutherland (when he gets back) could be contractors to Advanced Corporate Members (with a $0 fee for contracting), and then participate as consultant-contractors to the Advanced Corporate Members on the subcommittees?

(1) Consultants would attend as contractors to the Corporations
(2) Consultants would have subcommittee votes (we get to vote as we deem appropriate - we try our best to represent the user base)
(3) Corporations have the right to "fire" contractors at any time if their voting behavior becomes objectionable.
(4) Corporations would have their own DRs & DRAs for the entity-based voting (in theory, corporations could designate consultants as their DR or DRA representative, but that is unlikely).

This might allow myself, Heath, Stu and potentially others to continue participation as a $0-contractors representing Member Corporations. Any such participant would have to convince an existing Advanced Corporate Member that we are worthy to be a $0-contractor under the member corporation.

This way, corporate members could still recruit experienced technical talent to help perform the work of the subcommittees.

Karen seemed to think this might be an option, but she was going to research it more before responding.

This might be a way to keep Cliff, Heath and Stu on the subcommittees.

Regards - Cliff

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