RE: [sv-bc] Access to interfaces through methods rather than objects

Hi Dave,

if the synthesis tool (or any other tool) chooses to inline a method, shouldn't
it then generate/extend the modport itself, not requiring the designer to do
this tedious job by hand?

If the described system is behaviorally modelled using such methods, and later
refined towards RTL synthesis, it seems ackward that the modport should be
manually extended during such a refinement.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sv-bc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@eda.org]On Behalf Of Dave
Rich
Sent: 31. marts 2004 17:49
To: Peter Jensen
Cc: sv-bc@eda.org
Subject: Re: [sv-bc] Access to interfaces through methods rather than
objects

Peter,

The language does not require that interface members be listed in
modports if they are used by imported methods. In this way interfaces
are like classes that keep members private and allow access only through
their methods.

However, a synthesis style might require them because of the way it
in-lines the methods. That is an issue for the tool.

Dave

Peter Jensen wrote:

>Hi,
>
>When using interface methods (functions/tasks) to access objects (e.g.
>variables) within interfaces, it is clear that such methods should be listed
>in the modport using the import keyword. But should the objects be listed as
>well?
>
>Example:
>
>interface intf;
> bit a, b, q;
>
> function void f_calc();
> q = a & b;
> endfunction
>
> modport mp1 (import function f_calc());
> modport mp2 (input a, input b, output q, import function f_calc());
>endinterface
>
>module m1;
> intf intf_i ();
> m2 m2_i (.intf_i(intf_i.mp1));
>endmodule;
>
>module m2 (interface intf_i);
> always_comb
> intf_i.f_calc();
>endmodule
>
>
>Question:
>Should modport m1 or m2 be used when connecting the interface to m2?
>
>If m1 cannot be used, the use of real generic interfaces is partly
>inhibited, as the objects a, b, q also can be accessed by the interface
>client. Modport m1 forces the interface client to access the interface by
>methods.
>
>An EDA tool used for synthesis required that m2 was used in this example.
>
>
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>
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