[sv-bc] 10 December 2009 UNAPPROVED Working Group Meeting Minutes

Please forward any meeting minute corrections to me. Since we have
sought to alert a broader set of people to our planning for the next
revision or changes to the SystemVerilog standard, I have included the
subgroups on the meeting minutes as well.

-Dennis 
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IEEE P1800 SystemVerilog Working Group

UNAPPROVED MINUTES

10 December 2009

8:00 a.m. - 10:00 a.m. PST

Teleconference

 


1          CALL TO ORDER - INTRODUCTIONS & AFFILIATIONS

The meeting was called to order at 8:01 a.m. PST.

 

Member DRs/DRAs Present: 

Dennis Brophy (Mentor Graphics, DR) 

Mehdi Mohtashemi (Synopsys, DR)

Karen Pieper (Accellera, DR)

Daniel Even-haim (Intel DR)

Neil Korpusik (Sun, DR)

Steven Dovich (Cadence, DR)

 

Member DRAs Present:

Yatin Trivedi (Synopsys DRA)

Brad Pierce (Synopsys DRA)

Dave Rich (Mentor Graphics DRA)

 

Observers:

JL Gray (Verilab)

Michiel Ligthart (Verific Design Automation)

Nikhil Rishiyur (Bluespec)

Shalom Bresticker (Intel)

Peter Flake (Elda Technology Ltd)

2          Approve agenda

A motion (Dennis Brophy, Mehdi Mohtashemi) was made to approve the
agenda.  The motion passed unanimously.    

3          Patent Policy and Call for Patents 

Chair Pieper read the IEEE patent policy to the group and displayed it
on the WebEx.  The patents slides can be found here
<http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt> . 

4          Approval of Minutes 

*	Minutes of the September 3, 2009 Meeting 

	*	http://www.eda.org/sv-ieee1800/hm/0919.html 

*	Minutes of the September 10 Continuation, 2009 Meeting 

	*	http://www.eda.org/sv-ieee1800/hm/0944.html 

A motion (Neil Korpusik, Yatin Trivedi) was made to approve the minutes.
The motion passed unanimously. 

5          Funding, Budgeting, and Financial Update 

There was a small amount of money from our budget that was not spent.
We are looking at an honorarium for Shalom who took over for Stu for the
final IEEE edit review.  We also want to hold a celebration dinner as
well for the working group participants at DVCon.

6          Editing Update 

Shalom reports that Kathryn Burger is the IEEE editor for the standard.
She made many necessary corrections and asked Shalom to review those
changes to complete the publication version of the standard.  Shalom
also answered many questions that she had in preparation for
publication. There were many editorial corrections that were needed to
the LRM.  Shalom has not yet heard from Kathryn about a final review of
edits she made after his last conversations with her last Thursday.  

The standard is nearing completion for publication.  Dennis will work
with the IEEE to create a press release on publication, noting there was
also a press release scheduled upon IEEE SA approval.  Status on both of
these will be reported back to the group.  It appears that publication
may occur close to IEEE approval that these can be combined into one.

7          Ballot update

We are done!  Karen says thank you to the group.  Dennis says thanks to
Karen for her leadership.  Karen says thanks to Neil for an "A+" job as
vice-chair as well thanks to all his sub-chairs.

8          Schedule Status Update 

*	October 19, 2009 Submission deadline for IEEE Standards Board
Meeting 12/7-9 
*	December 7-9, 2009 IEEE Standards Board Meeting, Piscataway, NJ 
*	December 10, 2009 Teleconference 8am 
*	December 15, 2009 Initiate press release to announce IEEE-SA
Approval 
*	January 14, 2009 Teleconference 8am 
*	March 30, 2010 Initiate press release to announce Publication
available 

9          Discussion of new PAR 

The existing PAR is inactive, but extant, so we can develop our next PAR
without a study group.   The PAR reviewed at the meeting is found at
http://www.eda.org/sv-ieee1800/hm/0932.html.

In general, there is a group of people that want a short-term (two year)
project to fix issues with the standard.  There is a group of people
that want to consider enhancements as well as correcting issue with the
standard done within 4 years.  Then there are others that want
corrections and some enhancements done in the next two years as well. 

Should there be a cutoff date for enhancements and donations?  Should we
open multiple PARs, one for errata and clarifications and one PAR for
enhancements?  Could that be run in parallel or serial? Should we know
what we want to do first, and then create the needed PAR(s) to
accomplish the work?  Should we keep the scope broad to handle that
which we cannot know or predict today?

There was no resolution to these questions.  We plan to meet and convene
a larger congress of suppliers and consumers to discuss the next steps
to take.

To prepare for this meeting, the subgroups can meet to prepare their
presentations which will include the need to examine open Mantis items
to address questions of interpretation and identify those which might
require enhancements.  

A list of possible major enhancements includes (1) AMS Extensions, (2)
System level design, (3) IP Encryption and alignment with P1735, and (4)
enhancement to implement clarifications.  

Brad Pierce will send out information to a broader set of the industry
to join in this discussion and participate live or on the web at the
DVCon meeting.  Dennis will work on host logistics.  The meeting will be
held at Mentor Graphics, near the DoubleTree hotel, the DVCon conference
hotel.

10        P1800 technical committees and Champions operational update 

The committees are authorized to meet and address open questions and
develop a list of enhancements that are important for the next standard
for presentation at DVCon.  The committee can propose resolutions for
later consideration for open issues and questions in the Mantis
database.

11        New Business 

None.

12        Next meeting (announce date, time, and location, if known) 

January 14, 2009 P1800 Meeting teleconference 8:00 a.m. PST 

13        Adjournment 

A motion (Dennis Brophy) was made to adjourn the meeting.  The end of
the agenda being reached, no second was needed and the meeting adjourned
at 10:03 a.m. PST. 


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