Subject: RE: SystemVerilog 21st Meeting Minutes 4/1/02
From: David Smith (david_smith@avanticorp.com)
Date: Tue Apr 02 2002 - 15:20:08 PST
I assume you mean Monday April 8th and not April 7th. (Or is this a belated April Fool's comment?)
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From: Dave Kelf [mailto:davek@co-design.com]
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Subject: SystemVerilog 21st Meeting Minutes 4/1/02
SystemVerilog 21st Committee Meeting Minutes
April 1st, 2002
Teleconference
Lead Vassilios, Minutes Dave Kelf
Attendance
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(aa-aa--aaaa-aaaaa-aaaa) Stefen Boyd *
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(--aa==================) Alex Zamfirescu
Agenda
- Draft 5
- Open Issues:
Deprecation
State Machines
Packed Arrays
Always_comb
Enumerated Type Clarification
Data Packing (Peter has sent email)
Draft 6 Discussion Lead By Stu
- Introduction - Should remove references to companies that donated, etc.
Simplify history.
- BNF - boxes need to be completed - waiting on clean BNF from Stefen which
has to be tested by Alec.
ACTION: Stefen to send out new BNF.
Editor Notes:
Section 2 beginning - Name change should be completed
Section 3.8 - Casting - parentheses are required
Section 5.3 - Leave as is
Section 7.1 - Leave it in place
Section 7.5 - Operators need to be spelt out. Stu to write wording based on
what is legal for existing operators.
Section 7.9 - ACTION Peter needs to get back to Committee on rules for
unspecified size in concatenation
Section 9 - Decide after FSM discussion
Section 10 Note 1 - Intro looks like it needs to be a new section 10.8,
something like Process Execution or Threads
Section 10 Note 2 - ACTION Peter to look at 10.6 / 10.7 and send clean up
suggestions in email
Section 11/12 - ACTION Please everyone review and make sure these sections
are OK
Section 12.2 - ACTION Peter to analyze and get back to Stu Section 12.4 - Extern proposal needs to be deferred for 3.1. ACTION Kevin
to provide proposal.
Section 12.5 Note 1 - Change to: including packed array, structure, and union. Section 12.5 Note 2 - Need to spell out for cases of port specification,
and the resulting action
Last sentence before 12.6 - Grammatical error
Section 12.7 - ACTION: Cliff to send out information for this Wednesday
(3rd April)
Section 13.2 and 3 related notes - Postpone completion until .*/.name
syntax provided
Section 18 - ACTION: Tom to send on Thursday
Annex B - Should we reserve certain keywords for future proposals, for
example pointers (SUPERLOG uses ref). Word state should not be on list,
although transition should be kept. Extern is already there. Annex C - Stu to complete Glossary List
Open Issues
Packed Arrays
Looking at Paul's Proposal, 1 & 2 dropped. 3,4,5,6 are OK. ACTION on Peter to provide documentation for 6 to cover $left / $right. ACTION Paul to provide detailed proposal for syntax on 3,4,5. Arithmetic
operations already agreed to be deferred to 3.1
Deprecation
ACTION: Cliff to send a new proposal with softer wording to deprecate
procedural assign/deassign and defparam.
State Machines
Decided that we need a vote to choose whether to keep in 3.0 or defer to
3.1. Vassilios should drive vote as chair.
ACTION Vassilios to drive email vote on FSM status for Wednesday, vote to
be complete by Friday
Next Meeting
Next Monday 7th April, 9:00 PST, 12:00EDT, 5:00 GMT, 6:00 Central Europe
(note that the hour change will have happened by this time in the US). Call In Number 405 244 5555 access code 3715
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